Heartland

pikkrong wrote:

Ghostrider wrote:

Eva wrote:Do you people think that if The Sisters released a new studio album - lets say with the "new" songs we know - they could catch the attention of a larger audience?

well..i must say that they sound more "rock 'n roll" that ever before, with chris and wayne jamming the guitars like that...
must even say that songs like summer, slept, suzanne and even crash & burn could reach a wider audience

agree
when I heard first time "We Are the Same, Susanne" I wondered why this song isn't released as a single or something. I thought (and I still think) it's not music only for people who need special treatment, it's just a great tune (while even music made for people with special needs is quite popular these days )

PS

Ghostrider wrote: wayne

I agree!

Chairman Bux wrote:But Rammstein are the logical conclusion to the evolutionary tale that is The Sisters, surely? Even if Til's German isn't as good as Our Fearless Leader's.

Er... No.

They're nice chaps, yes, they play nicely with the german language (and it is debatable who's German is better by the way), yes, they do nice things with their guitars and use a lot of fire, and their music and lyrics are incredibly romantic, yes, granted.

But.

I do not dislike Rammstein. Even got some of their albums and a dvd. Was impressed by their performance at Pukkelpop 1997....but....I get bored in a way. It's al the same to me after a while...and that's okay...

I did not ever compare the Sisters with Rammstein.....and would not like to see AE working with fire at stage.
Can you imagine what happens if we did not "shut the fukc up"?! We get even more smoke....

Oh, I've seen them live once in Zurich and was impressed, and I have the album "Mutter" at home. It's just that a) their music and lyrics don't do anything for me and b) no matter how much irony there is I don't like bands who use Leni Riefenstahl footage for their video clips, just as much as I don't like bands who play with swastikas, no matter how "left wing" they say they are. It's a certain lack of sensitivity that bothers me...

Ozpat wrote: I did not ever compare the Sisters with Rammstein.....and would not like to see AE working with fire at stage.
Can you imagine what happens if we did not "shut the fukc up"?! We get even more smoke....

at that point he starts trowing torches in the audience, under the xcuse: "i was just following the playlist"
...
romeo down
Flood II
<break: let them sit on it for 5 mins>
neverland
TORCH!
lucreia
...




btw..doesn't he work with fire on stage allready??
i mean...he does light a sigaret every 5 minutes!!!

Ozpat wrote: I did not ever compare the Sisters with Rammstein.....and would not like to see AE working with fire at stage.
Can you imagine what happens if we did not "shut the fukc up"?! We get even more smoke....

It would be slightly dangerous, at least for the first couple of rows. Especially if he falls over and we start laughing... On the other hand it's an interesting thought....

Ghostrider wrote:

Ozpat wrote: I did not ever compare the Sisters with Rammstein.....and would not like to see AE working with fire at stage.
Can you imagine what happens if we did not "shut the fukc up"?! We get even more smoke....

at that point he starts trowing torches in the audience, under the xcuse: "i was just following the playlist"
...
romeo down
Flood II
<break: let them sit on it for 5 mins>
neverland
TORCH!
lucreia
...

With such a show I would not be scared to crash and burn!

well.he could change the playlist than..

first torch, followed with crash and burn...
and right after (i can imagine it will be silent enough by than) he can do I was wrong

Ghostrider wrote:well.he could change the playlist than..

first torch, followed with crash and burn...
and right after (i can imagine it will be silent enough by than) he can do I was wrong

Wouldn't that be a bit hard for him to admit?

Ozpat wrote:

Ghostrider wrote:well.he could change the playlist than..

first torch, followed with crash and burn...
and right after (i can imagine it will be silent enough by than) he can do I was wrong

Wouldn't that be a bit hard for him to admit?

Ozpat wrote:

Ghostrider wrote:well.he could change the playlist than..

first torch, followed with crash and burn...
and right after (i can imagine it will be silent enough by than) he can do I was wrong

Wouldn't that be a bit hard for him to admit?

nah..he wouldn't even admit admtting something, he would be happy to finally have the quiet audience while he does that lovely version of "wrong" ... be he will sing the chorus with a cinical tone i think

He does not want us to be quiet....He wants to order us to shut the fck up. He just likes saying that.

Ozpat wrote:He does not want us to be quiet....He wants to order us to shut the fck up. He just likes saying that.

Yes, but after that he does want us to shut the f up. You know, he wants some obedience. And during I Was Wrong I've always been tempted to light my lighter and to wave it, but somehow I've always had the feeling he wouldn't appreciate that, in fact, that I would make a complete and utter idiot of myself. For some reason I prefer to avoid that...

Eva wrote:

Ozpat wrote:He does not want us to be quiet....He wants to order us to shut the fck up. He just likes saying that.

Yes, but after that he does want us to shut the f up. You know, he wants some obedience. And during I Was Wrong I've always been tempted to light my lighter and to wave it, but somehow I've always had the feeling he wouldn't appreciate that, in fact, that I would make a complete and utter idiot of myself. For some reason I prefer to avoid that...

I guess you should use a burning sigarette to wave instead of a lighter

You are certainly right about the obedience.

Eva wrote:

Ozpat wrote:He does not want us to be quiet....He wants to order us to shut the fck up. He just likes saying that.

Yes, but after that he does want us to shut the f up. You know, he wants some obedience. And during I Was Wrong I've always been tempted to light my lighter and to wave it, but somehow I've always had the feeling he wouldn't appreciate that, in fact, that I would make a complete and utter idiot of myself. For some reason I prefer to avoid that...

You just should do that once, would love to know how he'd react

Perhaps you'd get some nice comments the next gig like 'where's your lighter now'

Eva wrote:

Ozpat wrote:He does not want us to be quiet....He wants to order us to shut the fck up. He just likes saying that.

Yes, but after that he does want us to shut the f up. You know, he wants some obedience. And during I Was Wrong I've always been tempted to light my lighter and to wave it, but somehow I've always had the feeling he wouldn't appreciate that, in fact, that I would make a complete and utter idiot of myself. For some reason I prefer to avoid that...

Heh. I think the lighters-in-the-air thing for I Was Wrong would be just the sort of gesture would appreciate.

Chairman Bux wrote:But Rammstein are the logical conclusion to the evolutionary tale that is The Sisters, surely? Even if Til's German isn't as good as Our Fearless Leader's.

I'm sure I recall some statement or other mentioning that the Sisters debuted a markedly different sound, teutonic even, from the decidedly American-Blues influence.
It's clear to see the Sisters have inspired generation after generation of musical endeavours, so I'd agree that Rammstein are merely one in a long line of bands to spring from the same source.

I must disagree, however - Till's German is better than Andrew's, he just doesn't seem to actually write any decent lyrics with it.

timsinister wrote:

Chairman Bux wrote:But Rammstein are the logical conclusion to the evolutionary tale that is The Sisters, surely? Even if Til's German isn't as good as Our Fearless Leader's.

I'm sure I recall some statement or other mentioning that the Sisters debuted a markedly different sound, teutonic even, from the decidedly American-Blues influence.
It's clear to see the Sisters have inspired generation after generation of musical endeavours, so I'd agree that Rammstein are merely one in a long line of bands to spring from the same source.

I must disagree, however - Till's German is better than Andrew's, he just doesn't seem to actually write any decent lyrics with it.

Too true.

But I can assure you that Rammstein are well aware of their roots and never claimed to have invented anything "new".

And they do love the Sisters thoroughly. At least some of them.

@Ozpat: I do smoke during gigs, but it's just not the real thing...

@Obviousman: I doubt that the comment would be what one commonly describes as "nice"....

@MF: Sure? hmmmm......

canon docre wrote: But I can assure you that Rammstein are well aware of their roots and never claimed to have invented anything "new".
And they do love the Sisters thoroughly. At least some of them.

I knew they are nice fellas...

Rammstein are simply Laibach without the humour, intelligence and purpose.

although the evolutionary connection between the sisters and rammstein is only sideline like, i would appreciate the sisters doing rammstein's "america" as a cover, maybe as intro to vision thing. then add another track about the states and present it as american trilogy. we are all living in america.

btw both bands mentioned appreciate to play around with image. luckily west yorkshires' leader is far away from being a teutonic bastard.

Gottdammerung wrote:Rammstein are simply Laibach without the humour, intelligence and purpose.

OI! In my experience, Rammstein are the only band with humour in the metal genre.

But I acknowledge it probably doesn't come across always.

intelligence and purpose is a completely different matter though.

canon docre wrote:

Gottdammerung wrote:Rammstein are simply Laibach without the humour, intelligence and purpose.

OI! In my experience, Rammstein are the only band with humour in the metal genre.

But I acknowledge it probably doesn't come across always.

intelligence and purpose is a completely different matter though.

Oh it does. They're funny as f**k, no two ways about it.

I guess their purpose, originally to relieve the boredom of life behind the iron curtain, has since been to make big pots of cash.

But hey, you'd know more than us Jess. Just ask them.

jost 7 wrote:although the evolutionary connection between the sisters and rammstein is only sideline like, i would appreciate the sisters doing rammstein's "america" as a cover, maybe as intro to vision thing. then add another track about the states and present it as american trilogy. we are all living in america.

ONLY OVER MY DEAD BODY!!! *shudder*
Ceterum censeo: I want The Sisters to cover FEVER! But that's another thread...

jost 7 wrote:btw both bands mentioned appreciate to play around with image. luckily west yorkshires' leader is far away from being a teutonic bastard.

I'd just say that Our Industrial Lovegod has a "luckier hand", better taste or simply a more concious approach regarding the choice of images to play with.

Eva wrote:

jost 7 wrote:btw both bands mentioned appreciate to play around with image. luckily west yorkshires' leader is far away from being a teutonic bastard.

I'd just say that Our Industrial Lovegod has a "luckier hand", better taste or simply a more concious approach regarding the choice of images to play with.

well, this is a question about which personal needs have to be satisfied (in our case by a band), as they aren't satisfied already. i like maslows theory about motivation and needs concerning such things. aren't all of us looking for a great time with some nice people?

in fact rammstein might satisfy a whole lot of "lower" needs than the leader up north.

but devotion might take place at every level. we are all living in europia. luckily.