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Loaded ia a fantastic album 'rock and roll, oh! sweet nuthin, new age, sweet jane etc" its just as good as anything else the velvets ever released (apart from 'sqeeze' of course )

kafka wrote:

randdebiel² wrote: You love loaded? ok then I understand, but what do you mean be Sun blinded music? something that I missed in Cale's career?

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And what's not to love about Loaded? It's a lovely album - Sweet Jane? New Age? etc. Admittedly, it's quite different - more like The Beatles than The Velvets' earlier stuff.. but I'd recommend you go back and listen to it again, cos it's fab.

oh, I admit it's ok...I love sweet jane....but there's Diug yule....the crappy production...and clearly something missing, my guess is: Cale
indeed....it's more beatles-like....and I don't like the beatles (except a few songs that are more velvet-like )
Indeed saying that it's bad is a bit exagerated, but it's not the velvet anymore.....maybe another reason why I believe it's more John Cale than Lou reed who was the velvet.......
what I liked most avout the velvet was the music, especially on the first two albums, which are the only ones I still listen to regularly.....
for me the velvet afterwards lacks exactly what roxy music became after Brian Eno left.....a pretty classic, a bit above average (which in the case of roxy music went pretty steepy downwards afterwards..)pop band....

im gonna have to stand up for mr yule here

sure- squeeze was pathetic for a v.u. album. I mean- it had neither Cale nor Reed. It just had Yule BUT it doesnt sound that bad- blame that bastard manager whatever his name was. It seems like that was the direction that the velvet underground wouldve most likely gone anyway. So nowone blame Mr Yule- He was young and in need of a job- that and it has the fantastic Ian paice of Deep Purple Fame on drums. but as a V.U album...madness

yes but the point is:it's SUPPOSED to be on a velvet album.....noone says loaded is really that bad....but as a velvet album it is.....if almost any other band would have released reloaded I'd say it was a fine albulm, but it wsn't some low-rate 60's pop band....it was the velvet underground....and as such, below par.....