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Badlander wrote:If I remember correctly, Ministry's "The fall" (Filth pig album) was supposed to be influenced by that same Led Zep song.

Actually, 'twas 'Scarecrow' from the Psalm 69 record. Drums and bass were both adapted as an homage to 'Levee.'

Chairman BOX wrote:

Badlander wrote:If I remember correctly, Ministry's "The fall" (Filth pig album) was supposed to be influenced by that same Led Zep song.

Actually, 'twas 'Scarecrow' from the Psalm 69 record. Drums and bass were both adapted as an homage to 'Levee.'

Sounds right... But still I seem to remember some interview from the Filth Pig period. Well maybe one day it will resurface.

Badlander wrote: Sounds right... But still I seem to remember some interview from the Filth Pig period. Well maybe one day it will resurface.

Having just listened to Scarecrow and When the Levee Breaks back to back: much of Scarecrow is pretty much a straight rip of the Zep song. No room for debate on that one. As for something off of Filth Pig, well...I wouldn't put it past Al to rip himself off ripping Zep off...But I've not really heard much of Filth Pig, having lost interest in Al and co. after Psalm 69 (which I quite liked).

sultan2075 wrote:But I've not really heard much of Filth Pig, having lost interest in Al and co. after Psalm 69 (which I quite liked).

Electro head ? 'tis perfectly awright, it's just that when Filth pig came out, I had a number of electro freaks friends who really didn't like it.

skip everything between Psalm 69 and Houses of the Mõle, even the Spinctour one, but do check out RevCo's Linger Ficken' Good

Badlander wrote:
Electro head ? 'tis perfectly awright, it's just that when Filth pig came out, I had a number of electro freaks friends who really didn't like it.

No, not especially. More like old punk rocker. I heard it, and except for the Clapton cover (that was Filth Pig, right?), I just didn't hear any songs. I always liked Ministry more with the guitars then without them, I just...like I said, I didn't hear any songs on it, if that makes sense. The m*****n does the same thing for me as post-Psalm 69 Ministry, i.e., not much. Post Psalm 69, I just thought they got boring. I always thought Al should spend more time and effort on quality control, instead of releasing every musical idea that stumbles through his heroin-addled brain to the public. Then again, there are always people that will buy anything he puts his name on, I suppose, so I can't really blame him for responding to market forces. Too bad Von doesn't respond more to market forces, eh?

sultan2075 wrote:I heard it, and except for the Clapton cover (that was Filth Pig, right?), I just didn't hear any songs.

You mean Lay lady lay ? It is on FP, but it's a Dylan song, not Clapton.

Badlander wrote:
You mean Lay lady lay ? It is on FP, but it's a Dylan song, not Clapton.

Yep, that's it. I thought they did an excellent job on that one.

I just checked your avatar !
You Hawkwind fan ?

Kansas Joe & Memphis Minnie's When the Levee Breaks, just thought it might be of interest

Badlander wrote:I just checked your avatar !
You Hawkwind fan ?

I like them a bit, yeah, but I've not heard all that much. Been meaning to rectify that, as I was once in a band with a guy who loved them more than life itself. The avatar is sort of a joke--my previous car was crushed between a Volvo and an 18 wheeler one beautiful sunny morning back in February, and this is what I'm driving now. A friend--a bigger Hawkwind fan than I--had asked for a picture of the new car, and I threw that on as a bit of a joke. I decided I liked it, and uploaded it as an avatar. After all, it is, technically, a silver machine...

I'm the Hawkwind nut 'round here but I'm choosey:
either Lemmy or Nik Turner has to be in the line-up, although I will cut PXR-5 some slack

Oooooooo, I love this kinda stuff - makes my brain happy!

Quiff Boy wrote:i remember reading an interview with von where he and the interviewer are talking about 'when the levee breaks'. von talks about the idea of covering the song, saying they would do it very well and what an amazing song it is...

he also mentions something about the drum break from the led zepp song and hints that they sampled it for neverland ??:

anyone else remember this?

I remember reading this (in the NME I think it was) and was ultimately disappointed that they never released it. I assume they didn't record a version, Neverland notwithstanding. I do have a great version by Killdozer though

James Blast wrote:I'm the Hawkwind nut 'round here but I'm choosey:
either Lemmy or Nik Turner has to be in the line-up, although I will cut PXR-5 some slack

Best move over cus you've got company.And no-one seriously into Hawkwind would actually admit to liking "silver machine" surely.
Sultan might well be a big David Essex fan

no, Silver Machine is class and it bankrolled the band for a good many years, all explained here-

plus it gave birth to the warthog known as the bass player as sang on that single, the rest is history, m'dear

I daresay it did but I still can't bare it,not because its bad but simply because if you go to any crap rock disco and ask for a Hawkwind track 9 times out of 10 the only track they've got is bloody silver machine.I call it "The 'closer' syndrome" as its the same with NIN's Closer and even with The Sisters and Temple 92,Seriously overplayed and now bores the pants off me.
Why bother with it when there's Master of the universe,Hassan I shabba etc.
Still ace live band last time I saw them 2 years ago and Alan Davey does a cracking impersonation of Snaggletooth.Brocky is still a God.Do you reckon Eldritch got his idea for sacking key band personnel from our Dave?