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Posted: **11 Oct 2006, 22:09**

weebleswobble wrote:
DarkAngel wrote:
canon docre wrote:Jeeez, are there any Amish around here trying to convert us?

Sorry, DarkAngel, I'll never give my telly away....

I always wanted to start a band and dress up like the Amish. ACDC's guitar player always reminded me of a little Amish boy in those silly shorts!

Wouldn't it be Amish Unplugged?

Posted: **12 Oct 2006, 09:22**

[quote="boudicca[/quote]

I didn't know they had 'tinternet in the Hindu Kush. [/quote]

Go and have a look. They call it Internet, there.

Posted: **12 Oct 2006, 10:21**

Back to the original point:

Yes, (maybe) some Amish people have Done A Good Thingâ„¢.

This has no bearing whatsoever on the truth or falsity of their religious beliefs.

Posted: **12 Oct 2006, 11:15**

They look a lot like the Sisters in Â´85..

Posted: **12 Oct 2006, 15:14**

markfiend wrote:Back to the original point:

Yes, (maybe) some Amish people have Done A Good Thingâ„¢.

This has no bearing whatsoever on the truth or falsity of their religious beliefs.

I agree. But it does show how religion can tranform people and events (in a good way in this example).

And, therefore; sometimes religion can be a very good thing Mark - inspiring great acts of love and kindness.

Posted: **12 Oct 2006, 15:21**

OK, fine, but for every example of religion "being a good thing", someone is going to throw an Inquisition or some Crusades back at you. It's getting us nowhere.

Posted: **12 Oct 2006, 15:22**

And, therefore; sometimes religion can be a very good thing Mark - inspiring great acts of love and kindness.

Let's put it this way: the Catholics give charity, but so did the nazis.

Posted: **12 Oct 2006, 15:50**

Also:

George Bernard Shaw wrote:The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.

Posted: **12 Oct 2006, 16:41**

markfiend wrote:Also:
George Bernard Shaw wrote:The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.

very good and very true.

Posted: **12 Oct 2006, 20:32**

markfiend wrote:Also:
George Bernard Shaw wrote:The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.

I think one's happiness affects the quality of one's life.

Posted: **12 Oct 2006, 21:17**

DarkAngel wrote:
markfiend wrote:Also:
George Bernard Shaw wrote:The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
I think one's happiness affects the quality of one's life.

True happiness should come from inside yourself, and not be reliant on any external crutch. Otherwise you're only fooling yourself.

You don't need religion to inspire good deeds either. Anyone is capable of doing Good Stuff if they think and try. So few do, granted, but the religion factor is a strawman in this particular argument.

Heartland

How religion and faith can transform people and events.