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@Moses...that seems to depend on what situation they're using it in & towards who. Actually, that word can be used towards any person as the meaning (according to Webster's Unabridged Dictionary) is a low-class, ignorant person. Have met plenty of white folks who fit that definition!

The TV programme "Nathan Barley" (based on Cnut from Charlie Brooker's TVGoHome) had the title character call everyone 'my ni**er'.

But then, he's supposed to be a cnut.

Patti Smith has a track on her Easter cd that's called "Rock 'n Roll [whoops, i did a racism]" ~ good song....yet again she also says that Jesus Christ was a [whoops, i did a racism] too!

Got to love her.

Anyhoo, I know a worse word than the N word, it starts with a K.

kebab?

Kritney? Spears or Houston, you chose.

no and no....ha!

Give you a clue though...it's a NOT said thing in S.A. unless you want to be shot, or have a taxi bus run you off the road.

MadameButterfly wrote:Patti Smith has a track on her Easter cd that's called "Rock 'n Roll n****r" ~ good song....yet again she also says that Jesus Christ was a n****r too!

I do have to say, that is one mighty choon, one of my all-time faves, and it doesn't remotely offend me (and I can't really imagine it doing so even if I was black to be honest). The intent behind the words makes an enormous amount of difference I think - rightly or wrongly.

boudicca wrote:

MadameButterfly wrote:Patti Smith has a track on her Easter cd that's called "Rock 'n Roll n****r" ~ good song....yet again she also says that Jesus Christ was a n****r too!

I do have to say, that is one mighty choon, one of my all-time faves, and it doesn't remotely offend me (and I can't really imagine it doing so even if I was black to be honest). The intent behind the words makes an enormous amount of difference I think - rightly or wrongly.

Hee! It is a mighty choon!
There's another song, by who ... oh dear, but it goes...*edit ~ NOFX

Don't call me white!
Don't call me white! Also an ace choon!

MadameButterfly wrote:Don't call me white!
Don't call me white!

I say that all the time, but nobody listens...

boudicca wrote:

MadameButterfly wrote:Don't call me white!
Don't call me white!

I say that all the time, but nobody listens...

But but they should my black sista!

MadameButterfly wrote:Patti Smith has a track on her Easter cd that's called "Rock 'n Roll n****r" ~ good song....yet again she also says that Jesus Christ was a n****r too!

Got to love her.

Anyhoo, I know a worse word than the N word, it starts with a K.

That will be this one:
Jimi Hendrix was a [whoops, i did a racism].
Jesus Christ and Grandma, too.
Jackson Pollock was a [whoops, i did a racism].
[whoops, i did a racism], [whoops, i did a racism], [whoops, i did a racism], [whoops, i did a racism],
[whoops, i did a racism], [whoops, i did a racism], [whoops, i did a racism].

moses wrote:

MadameButterfly wrote:Patti Smith has a track on her Easter cd that's called "Rock 'n Roll n****r" ~ good song....yet again she also says that Jesus Christ was a n****r too!

Got to love her.

Anyhoo, I know a worse word than the N word, it starts with a K.

That will be this one:
Jimi Hendrix was a n****r.
Jesus Christ and Grandma, too.
Jackson Pollock was a n****r.
n****r, n****r, n****r, n****r,
n****r, n****r, n****r.

Indeed sir indeed!

markfiend wrote:The TV programme "Nathan Barley" (based on Cnut from Charlie Brooker's TVGoHome) had the title character call everyone 'my ni**er'.

But then, he's supposed to be a cnut.

I only know the Japanese version

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=baJyUKEHp4U

Beware, may contain the n-word, amongst others!

IZ.

@MB...fantastic song!! And no one has ever called her racist for it. Unlike the flack Guns n Roses got for using it once in One in a Million.

MadameButterfly wrote:no and no....ha!

Give you a clue though...it's a NOT said thing in S.A. unless you want to be shot, or have a taxi bus run you off the road.

Oh. I think I know what word you mean. Derived from an Islamic term usually translated as unbeliever...

Here's an interesting post on the Patti Smith song:

http://babellist.xnet2.com/9706/msg00466.html

Now, what about the use of MF in Vision Thing. Commercial suicide?

The use of the word 'Black' came from this btw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say_It_Lou ... %27m_Proud

And Wayne uses the term "rock'n'roll n****r in The M*****n's Divided We Fall. (Note how I can't use that word either. Apparently they're as bad as each other.)

markfiend wrote:

MadameButterfly wrote:no and no....ha!

Give you a clue though...it's a NOT said thing in S.A. unless you want to be shot, or have a taxi bus run you off the road.

Oh. I think I know what word you mean. Derived from an Islamic term usually translated as unbeliever...

We have a winner! I didn't know it derived from an Islamic term...wow that saying that you learn something new everyday and all that....

MadameButterfly wrote:

markfiend wrote:

MadameButterfly wrote:no and no....ha!

Give you a clue though...it's a NOT said thing in S.A. unless you want to be shot, or have a taxi bus run you off the road.

Oh. I think I know what word you mean. Derived from an Islamic term usually translated as unbeliever...

We have a winner! I didn't know it derived from an Islamic term...wow that saying that you learn something new everyday and all that....

It doesn't seem to be quite as offensive in arabic as it does in English - our Syrian bus driver was routinely referred to as a [thing] by the guide because he ate during Ramadan, although as a bona-fide traveler he got a dispensation.

EvilBastard wrote:

MadameButterfly wrote:

markfiend wrote: Oh. I think I know what word you mean. Derived from an Islamic term usually translated as unbeliever...

We have a winner! I didn't know it derived from an Islamic term...wow that saying that you learn something new everyday and all that....

It doesn't seem to be quite as offensive in arabic as it does in English - our Syrian bus driver was routinely referred to as a [thing] by the guide because he ate during Ramadan, although as a bona-fide traveler he got a dispensation.

I've never heard it in arabic so don't know what it sounds like in that language. Your story EB is interesting as he was called [thing] in the meaning of the word which in this case can't be seen as offensive actually. The thing that has always got to me is that word being used when the user doesn't even know the meaning of the word.

It doesn't matter really as I am of opion if you are discriminating in calling a certain group a certain word, it's just a bad thing. It's not the words used that is getting me, it's the prejudice behind the words that worries me. The same as labels of all kinds....

MadameButterfly wrote:It's not the words used that is getting me, it's the prejudice behind the words that worries me. The same as labels of all kinds....

Well, we're all human at the end of the day.

Yeah, I sure didn't feel like it at the start of the day.

Regarding the Arabic word: are you referring to a word that begins with the letter K, and also refers to a variety of lime?

According to Wiki's list of derogatory terms (what CAN'T that site spew out?), yes.

I'm glad nobody has actually used the k word. Saves me amending the swear filter.