Village Voice NY Review

astrababe · 30 Mar 2006, 19:29

Ouch!

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0612, ... 73,22.html

euphoria · 30 Mar 2006, 19:39

And we thought we were used to seeing the Sisters get slaughtered by the press. Now THIS review is what I would call negative. Reminds me of some mails I deleted early this morning...

Obviousman · 30 Mar 2006, 19:41

"Reunion tours" they say

Says about all, no further need to comment

Badlander · 30 Mar 2006, 19:48

NYC snobs. Who cares what they think ?

6FeetOver · 30 Mar 2006, 20:51

euphoria wrote:Now THIS review is what I would call negative. Reminds me of some mails I deleted early this morning...

Why, you on Dominion too, then?

31 Mar 2006, 10:02

the only bit they got right:

"His playful irony has always hinged on a nasty bitterness"

Electrochrome · 31 Mar 2006, 16:45

The knives were out before she even saw the show, I bet. "Oh God, The Sisters of Mercy are still touring." Nice that someone in NYC bothered to even review the show (zero promotion, hardly a word in the papers), but of course, we get some ex-***h, blah blah blah.

'Reunion tour'.

Ben and Chris and Andrew, reunited again.

6FeetOver · 31 Mar 2006, 16:54

LOL!

tristren · 31 Mar 2006, 18:28

You know, it just occurred to me that Ben and Chris are younger than The Sisters.... How strange.

Tony

cultchild · 31 Mar 2006, 20:38

look at it this way... led zeppelin had reviews like this and even worse.. and look now!! all the critics praise them now. with over 100 million in sales in the u.s alone without videos,singles,airplay and any t.v. appearance in the u.s. so who has the last laugh. andrew plays for his fans!!!! just like led zeppelin did!!

Badlander · 31 Mar 2006, 21:02

tristren wrote:You know, it just occurred to me that Ben and Chris are younger than The Sisters.... How strange.

You sure ? I believe Ben's 26. How old is Chris ?

cultchild wrote:look at it this way... led zeppelin had reviews like this and even worse.. and look now!! all the critics praise them now. with over 100 million in sales in the u.s alone without videos,singles,airplay and any t.v. appearance in the u.s. so who has the last laugh. andrew plays for his fans!!!! just like led zeppelin did!!

Critics used to blast Queen big time. OMG that was bloody violent. Mind you, they'd had the guts to say they didn't care about the press.

cultchild · 31 Mar 2006, 21:20

cultchild wrote:]look at it this way... led zeppelin had reviews like this and even worse.. and look now!! all the critics praise them now. with over 100 million in sales in the u.s alone without videos,singles,airplay and any t.v. appearance in the u.s. so who has the last laugh. andrew plays for his fans!!!! just like led zeppelin did!!

Critics used to blast Queen big time. OMG that was bloody violent. Mind you, they'd had the guts to say they didn't care about the press.

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i guess that's why zeppelin never talked to the press. there was no need to because they will say what ever they want to no matter what you say. mabe andrew feels the same way!!! like robert plant once said critics are people who can't get hard ons. in her case you can insert your own joke!

GrooveKitten · 01 Apr 2006, 04:13

Ouch! Very harsh! But what can one expect from the paper that brought us Sex and the City?!

I may just have to use that Send a Letter to the editor option....

GMC · 01 Apr 2006, 15:13

It's funny how close that tracks the ex-goth reviews in Dominion and on here. Nine While Nine my sainted rear end. Great song but there are decent reasons not to play it live. Reasons like "It would sound silly with a bunch of distortion."

I wonder if she thought Ben was Gary Marx under all the hair.

The difference being that Queen really DID suck. Jokes invited...

daggs · 01 Apr 2006, 18:09

cultchild wrote: andrew plays for his fans!!!!

As much as I LOVE the sisters and think the article was harsh I have to disagree with the above statement as

s attitude usually seems to suggest he doesn't really do anything for his fans...he has his own reasons....bless him!

mugabe · 01 Apr 2006, 19:55

Fans complain => "Eldritch does what he feels like doing and doesn't care"
Press complains => "Eldritch only cares about his fans"

Besides, she came off as a fan - a disppointed fan, but a fan nevertheless - well-placed "More" quotation and all. Her using the term "reunion" doesn't nullify the rest of her opinions, methinks, as the tour has all the makings of a reunion tour. Any journalist failing to spell "soul-baring" correctly should be flogged, however.

Crash course in logical fallacies:

1. "The Village Voice are gave us Sex in the City, hence their review of the Sisters gig is necessarily bad" is an ad hominem attack.

2. "Led Zeppelin were lambasted in the press yet became immensely popular, hence The Sisters will become immensely popular since they're lambasted in the press" is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

GrooveKitten · 01 Apr 2006, 20:26

Wow, all that and lesson in Latin and Logic too. I had no idea this thread was complex.

How do you say Kiss Ones Arse in Latin?

Badlander · 01 Apr 2006, 20:27

mugabe wrote:as the tour has all the makings of a reunion tour.

Exuse me, but uh ?

Like what ?

1. "The Village Voice are gave us Sex in the City, hence their review of the Sisters gig is necessarily bad" is an ad hominem attack.

So ? It's just cheap talk.

2. "Led Zeppelin were lambasted in the press yet became immensely popular, hence The Sisters will become immensely popular since they're lambasted in the press" is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

Nope : the press used to hate the Zep, ans yet they're now considered one of the best rock acts of all times. Slightly different.

Don't always listen to the press, that's the lesson.

Badlander · 01 Apr 2006, 20:29

GrooveKitten wrote:I had no idea this thread was complex.

Rest assured it won't last long.

You got scared, didn't you ?

Obviousman · 01 Apr 2006, 20:35

GrooveKitten wrote:How do you say Kiss Ones Arse in Latin?

I think Izzy knew that

RE Led Zep: But they were picked up faster and much more by the crowd too, no

Badlander · 01 Apr 2006, 20:46

Obviousman wrote: RE Led Zep: But they were picked up faster and much more by the crowd too, no

So true. Also applies to Queen.

Chairman BOX · 01 Apr 2006, 23:29

GrooveKitten wrote:How do you say Kiss Ones Arse in Latin?

We suggest: Osculare anum meum.

With a macron over the 'a' of osculare.

Mind you, our declension of the imperative may be suspect, if memory has failed us with regard to the conjugation of "to kiss," but it's likely better than anything you'll find on the web... the nicer parts of it, anyway.

And the tangent kept a-rollin' on...

mugabe · 12 Apr 2006, 16:56

Is this the sole newspaper review to surface, btw?

12 Apr 2006, 19:02

I've just had an image of Ben and Chris in a hotel room and hearing Alice on the radio - fetching Von and then hearing the immortal line. That's the equivelant of reading that review.

James Blast · 12 Apr 2006, 20:36

"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk in order to provide articles for people who can't read".
Frank Zappa