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How religion and faith can transform people and events.

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 15:47
by DarkAngel
"NICKEL MINES, Pennsylvania, Monday October 2, A dairy truck driver, apparently nursing a 20-year-old grudge, walked into a one-room Amish schoolhouse here Monday morning and systematically tried to execute the girls there, killing four and wounding seven before killing himself, the police said.

The heavily armed gunman first ordered the 15 boys in the room to leave, along with several adults, and demanded that the 11 girls line up facing the blackboard. As the gunman lashed the students' legs together with wire and plastic ties, the teacher dashed from the room and called the police around 10:35 a.m"

After watching six more of the little girls die off over a few days (ages 6-13) the Amish parents openly forgave the killer and set up a fund for the killer's widow and children. They also mourned with the killer's wife and children, offering them love and support. The killer's widow and children are not Amish.

The forgiving response of the Amish community has set the standard of love for the rest of us in PA; we are inspired to forgive and accept too. The killer's widow and children will not be ostrasized, but instead will be accepted and cared for.

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 16:14
by weebleswobble
They are lovely but I'm not prepared to milk cows at dawn, raise barns and have disgraced criniminal cops come looking to kill me.
:innocent:

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 16:18
by EvilBastard
weebleswobble wrote:They are lovely but I'm not prepared to milk cows at dawn, raise barns and have disgraced criniminal cops come looking to kill me.
:innocent:
Yeah, but the opportunity to boink Kelly McGillis...

[EDIT] That's Kelly McGillis THEN, not now... :lol:

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 16:23
by Badlander
Now the real issue is : why do they never play Bury me deep ? Image

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 16:23
by mh
Ancient Greece, several thousand years ago.

The goddess Thetis, being miffed that Andromeda was described as more beautiful than her, threw a right hissy fit and demanded that Andromeda be sacrificed in 30 days time.

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 16:26
by smiscandlon
mh wrote:Ancient Greece, several thousand years ago.

The goddess Thetis, being miffed that Andromeda was described as more beautiful than her, threw a right hissy fit and demanded that Andromeda be sacrificed in 30 days time.
It's almost like you're deliberately going off topic. What would Harry Hamlin say?

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 16:27
by Badlander
mh wrote:Ancient Greece, several thousand years ago.

The goddess Thetis, being miffed that Andromeda was described as more beautiful than her, threw a right hissy fit and demanded that Andromeda be sacrificed in 30 days time.
Real cool avatar sir. :notworthy: 8)

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 16:29
by streamline
mh wrote:Ancient Greece, several thousand years ago.

The goddess Thetis, being miffed that Andromeda was described as more beautiful than her, threw a right hissy fit and demanded that Andromeda be sacrificed in 30 days time.
...and? What happened? Was she sacrificed?
Don't leave us in suspense - finish the story!

:lol: :wink:

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 16:33
by EvilBastard
mh wrote:Ancient Greece, several thousand years ago.

The goddess Thetis, being miffed that Andromeda was described as more beautiful than her, threw a right hissy fit and demanded that Andromeda be sacrificed in 30 days time.
Ancient Palmyra, about 2 thousand years ago.

Claiming descent from Cleopatra, Queen Zenobia imbued Palmyra with a wild romance. Apparently, she was also a ruler with a sense of humor. A merchant was to be punished for overcharging and was summoned to the theatre to appear in front of the queen and the public audience. The merchant stood alone in the arena and shook with fear, thinking that a wild beast was to be set upon him. When the beast was released the crowd roared with laughter – the merchant turned around to be confronted by a chicken.

Re: How religion and faith can transform people and events.

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 18:39
by paint it black
DarkAngel wrote:"NICKEL MINES, Pennsylvania, Monday October 2, A dairy truck driver, apparently nursing a 20-year-old grudge, walked into a one-room Amish schoolhouse here Monday morning and systematically tried to execute the girls there, killing four and wounding seven before killing himself, the police said.

The heavily armed gunman first ordered the 15 boys in the room to leave, along with several adults, and demanded that the 11 girls line up facing the blackboard. As the gunman lashed the students' legs together with wire and plastic ties, the teacher dashed from the room and called the police around 10:35 a.m"

After watching six more of the little girls die off over a few days (ages 6-13) the Amish parents openly forgave the killer and set up a fund for the killer's widow and children. They also mourned with the killer's wife and children, offering them love and support. The killer's widow and children are not Amish.

The forgiving response of the Amish community has set the standard of love for the rest of us in PA; we are inspired to forgive and accept too. The killer's widow and children will not be ostrasized, but instead will be accepted and cared for.
this is so much bollocks it's unreal. don't you read the news :?

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 18:43
by nick the stripper
The Amish disgust me.

I remember seeing a documentary about Amish cover-ups. This Amish girl was raped by her three brothers, so she ran to the priest (or vicar, whatever), and he simply told her to turn the other cheek and forgive them. Afraid that it would happen again, she went to the police. Because the boys got life sentences, she was disowned by her family and the entire Amish community.

This documentary also said about how this sort of thing happens a lot in the Amish community, but they cover it up so they’re seen as peaceful simple folk. Now, sure, I’d be fine with it if it was just a few members who were doing sick stuff, what annoys me is that the entire community covers it up and generally the criminal goes unpunished and the victim does. It’s disgusting.

P.S DarkAngel, enough trolling already!

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 19:03
by 9while9
nick the stripper wrote:The Amish disgust me.

I remember seeing a documentary about Amish cover-ups. This Amish girl was raped by her three brothers, so she ran to the priest (or vicar, whatever), and he simply told her to turn the other cheek and forgive them. Afraid that it would happen again, she went to the police. Because the boys got life sentences, she was disowned by her family and the entire Amish community.

This documentary also said about how this sort of thing happens a lot in the Amish community, but they cover it up so they’re seen as peaceful simple folk. Now, sure, I’d be fine with it if it was just a few members who were doing sick stuff, what annoys me is that the entire community covers it up and generally the criminal goes unpunished and the victim does. It’s disgusting.

P.S DarkAngel, enough trolling already!
In Internet terminology, a troll is usually someone who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude, repetitive, offensive, off-topic or otherwise disruptive messages designed intentionally to annoy or antagonize the existing members or alter the flow of discussion, including the personal attack of calling others trolls.

By the very definition we have allot of trolls onboard.....>
If you: alter the flow of discussion > You're a troll
If you're: Rude > You're a troll
If you're: Off topic > You're a troll
If you're: Inflammatory > You're a troll

Ok kids now it's time to twist the definition to fit your attacks... :roll:

Keep in mind, I actually like allot of you jerks........

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 19:31
by Dark
Keep twisting yourself. As understandable as it is that you're in a relationship with DarkAngel, springing to her defence all the time is admirable, if somewhat misguided.

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 19:38
by mh
9while9 wrote:
nick the stripper wrote:The Amish disgust me.

I remember seeing a documentary about Amish cover-ups. This Amish girl was raped by her three brothers, so she ran to the priest (or vicar, whatever), and he simply told her to turn the other cheek and forgive them. Afraid that it would happen again, she went to the police. Because the boys got life sentences, she was disowned by her family and the entire Amish community.

This documentary also said about how this sort of thing happens a lot in the Amish community, but they cover it up so they’re seen as peaceful simple folk. Now, sure, I’d be fine with it if it was just a few members who were doing sick stuff, what annoys me is that the entire community covers it up and generally the criminal goes unpunished and the victim does. It’s disgusting.

P.S DarkAngel, enough trolling already!
In Internet terminology, a troll is usually someone who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude, repetitive, offensive, off-topic or otherwise disruptive messages designed intentionally to annoy or antagonize the existing members or alter the flow of discussion
Check.

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 20:04
by 9while9
mh wrote:
9while9 wrote:
nick the stripper wrote:The Amish disgust me.

I remember seeing a documentary about Amish cover-ups. This Amish girl was raped by her three brothers, so she ran to the priest (or vicar, whatever), and he simply told her to turn the other cheek and forgive them. Afraid that it would happen again, she went to the police. Because the boys got life sentences, she was disowned by her family and the entire Amish community.

This documentary also said about how this sort of thing happens a lot in the Amish community, but they cover it up so they’re seen as peaceful simple folk. Now, sure, I’d be fine with it if it was just a few members who were doing sick stuff, what annoys me is that the entire community covers it up and generally the criminal goes unpunished and the victim does. It’s disgusting.

P.S DarkAngel, enough trolling already!
In Internet terminology, a troll is usually someone who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude, repetitive, offensive, off-topic or otherwise disruptive messages designed intentionally to annoy or antagonize the existing members or alter the flow of discussion
Check.
Mate.

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Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 20:09
by RicheyJames
nick the stripper wrote:some stuff about the amish not being quite as cuddly as they'd like us to think
but if they were muslim, they'd have done all that and launched suicide attacks on half of rural pennsylvania in retaliation. do try to keep up.

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 20:10
by 9while9
RicheyJames wrote:
nick the stripper wrote:some stuff about the amish not being quite as cuddly as they'd like us to think
but if they were muslim, they'd have done all that and launched suicide attacks on half of rural pennsylvania in retaliation. do try to keep up.
:lol:

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 22:16
by nick the stripper
Is it just me or has the hostility rating gone up?

If only there was killfile.

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 22:23
by 9while9
nick the stripper wrote:Is it just me or has the hostility rating gone up?

If only there was killfile.
Just you....

But I must STAB you for saying that.....

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:lol:

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 23:37
by weebleswobble
Amish Shamish
Blame Canada

Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 23:57
by 9while9
weebleswobble wrote:Amish Shamish
Blame Canada

Blame Canada Clicky

Re: How religion and faith can transform people and events.

Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 09:47
by markfiend
DarkAngel wrote:The forgiving response of the Amish community [...]
... is a good thing why exactly?
DarkAngel wrote:The killer's widow and children will not be ostrasized, but instead will be accepted and cared for.
I should damn well hope so. It was him that killed the girls, not them. And I'm sure not a day will go by without them being reminded of the compassion and forgiveness the Amish have shown them.

Sanctimonious twaddle.

Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 11:30
by a.r.kane
nick the stripper wrote:The Amish disgust me.
The English disgust me. You disgust me.

Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 11:36
by nick the stripper
a.r.kane wrote:The English disgust me. You disgust me.
Yep.

Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 11:43
by Mrs RicheyJames
a.r.kane wrote:
nick the stripper wrote:The Amish disgust me.
The English disgust me. You disgust me.
Jealousy's a terrible terrible thing :roll: