Heartland

Following a discussion in another thread...

Have you ever been told that such band/album/what else was just so good, brilliant, unconventional, extreme, etc. that you had to love it. Then you went home, listened to the record, and just thought "I'm not convinced, not a bit. I even find it pretty crappy and boring."

For example, I've never been convinced by Captain Beefheart. I did try it, but either I'm too narrow-minded (or not clever enough), or it's just not what it's cracked up to be.
What do you really think of Lou Reed's Metal machine music ? Etc.

Most M!ssion records...

Vision Thing.

Good topic! I can think of loads of cases of this.

Perhaps the most obvious one for me (though it is a bit ambivalent) is The Beatles' Seargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. It comes top of poll after poll of greatest albums, and I do have to say the first time I put it on, aged 10, my life changed there and then. That was the moment I stopped listening to the charts and what was being played to me on the radio and started to seek out what I liked.

However it is by no means the Beatles' best - for that I'd say probably Revolver, though I have a soft spot for Rubber Soul, Abbey Road and even *gasp* Magical Mystery Tour. I'd much rather listen to any of them these days. And all Beatles albums did have their terrible moments... usually something to do with Paul being twee or Ringo being given a microphone

scotty wrote:Vision Thing.

I kind of understand that Keith and I guess almost nobody expected
this but I never experienced it as crappy or boring.

These days....I love it!

Ozpat wrote:Most M!ssion records...

Who told you they were legendary ?

Front 242

I love my electro, but this just doesn't click with me, nor does Front Line Assembley or Skinny Puppy.

From "that" thread - my two must be..

Television
and
Suicide

most of sisters records

taylor wrote:most of sisters records

Aye.

I'd have to agree with Claire about The Beatles,Led Zeppelin spring to mind for a lot of dodgy albums with only a couple of good tracks on them.Metallica's first album came highly recommended to me but is utter crud,Sounds ,Kerrang etc were all raving about it.I would also have to mention most Bauhaus albums.Their gig in Glasgow blew me away but their albums never really hint at the sort of greatness I witnessed that night.
What about Spirea X...billed as the new Cocteau Twins,4ad should have been sued for false advertising.

U2. I either don't get them or just can't see what's so special.

Never Mind The Bollocks, while it contains some indisputably brilliant tracks, lacks variety and maturity as a whole, I think.

London Calling's also an album which didn't impress me, although it has a similar collection of standout numbers on it, not least the title track.

Having said that, I don't think the impact of these albums on popular music is overstated or overrated.

Interesting question.

Uriah Heep, Procol Harum (sp?), Gong, Bad Company, and their 'classic albums' ... nope. Give me early Genesis and Pete Gabe.

Deep Purple 'Made In Tokyo' or Led Zep 4? Jimmy Page is God.

Modern times? I will go to my grave never having understood Bauhaus. Their sound just irritates me. Deeply. Except Bela and Dark Entries. Which is what ... two songs out of 100?

And what ever happened to JJ72? "The Irish Joy Division" (rhetorical question).

At the end of the day it's a bit like you love The Sisters ... or you hate The Sisters. There's no middle (giving) ground.

Zuma wrote:Television

Marquee Moon, Dave?

Johnny Rev 7.0 wrote:

Zuma wrote:Television

Marquee Moon, Dave?

Aye Mr J
Just never got it at all...I appreciate it was very "anti guitar" guitar playing but it just left me cold....

I find it difficult to like Pink Floyd. And Lou Reed.

Dark wrote:I find it difficult to like Pink Floyd. And Lou Reed.

They speak very highly of you.

If you didn't mind the bollocks you didn't mind the album. Thats another great I don't like.

Apart from 'Love will tear us apart' I never really liked Joy Division, but i am considering giving them another go, now a few years have past and my music taste is a bit more mature.

I really like NIN, but the downward spiral was rubbish. It had 3 good tracks (closer, heresay and hurt) but Pretty Hate Machine is where its truely at, one of the most complete albums I've ever heard.
(currently got my PHM 12" playing downstairs, the bass actually made the floor vibrate, I'm dead happy about that)

boudicca wrote: However it is by no means the Beatles' best - for that I'd say probably Revolver, though I have a soft spot for Rubber Soul, Abbey Road and even *gasp* Magical Mystery Tour. I'd much rather listen to any of them these days. And all Beatles albums did have their terrible moments... usually something to do with Paul being twee or Ringo being given a microphone

Agreed. Funny you didn't mention the White album. I mean it is fantastic, isn't it ?
When it comes to the Beatles, you also have to take into account the fact that in the 60s it was pretty common for a band to release one or even two album(s) a year. The rule was pretty much "record and release", which means even the most talented were doomed to release some weaker tunes, not to say straight crap.

I used to have a problem with Pink Floyd's The dark side of the moon, but tbh it probably had more to do with the album's incredible success than with the music itself. I was bit of a snob and I couldn't really accept the idea of liking the same music everybody around me liked (including my dickhead classmates, you get the point). Now even if it's not my favourite Floyd album (it's Wish you were here if you want to know), at least I can recognize it's a damn good record.

Can't say the same of the Floyd's other monster, The Wall. I find the whole idea very pretentious, the music pretty dull, the singing unimpressive, and tbh I'm not very interested in Roger Waters' childhood traumas. My favourite two tracks from that album are Comfortably numb and Run like hell... which were written by Dave Gilmour, not Waters.

The Doors

and the Velvet Underground

permission to (b)land

still holds the record for resale. absolute carp

followed by blackgrape - it's great (not) .... etc[/i]

blasphemy for some, but anything by Oasis.....

Red Hot Chili Peppers, I like The Uplift Mofo Party Plan & Mothers Milk but the rest is just pish.

Queen and The Beatles.