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Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 16:56**

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7708169.stm

According to Amnesty International, nurses were sent to check during the stoning whether the victim was still alive. They removed her from the ground and declared that she was, before she was replaced so the stoning could continue.

Words fail me.

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 17:31**

How about this one-cnuts

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 17:39**

weebleswobble wrote:How about this one-cnuts

Reckon me and you would do quite well sharing Global Presidency - you up for it?

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 17:44**

I read about it too.

See, hell isnt far away at all.. only there can something like this happen

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 18:08**

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=17927

Inside the stadium, militia members opened fire when some of the witnesses to the killing attempted to save her life, and shot dead a boy who was a bystander. An al-Shabab spokeperson was later reported to have apologized for the death of the child, and said the milita member would be punished.

A cruel irony that they apologise for the bystander's death...

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 18:26**

It's also ironic that a 13 year old called Aisha was one of the Prophet Mohammed's brides.

Sadly, and I do mean sadly, nothing surprises me that comes out of Africa, or is done in the name of the "Religion of Peace". For whatever reason, both seem stuck in the Middle Ages.

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 18:33**

DeWinter wrote:For whatever reason, both seem stuck in the Middle Ages.

Ain't that the truth.

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 18:45**

Silence is platinum wrote:See, hell isnt far away at all.. only there can something like this happen

This is hell.

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 18:49**

People mistreat everything that crosses their path in all ways possible - and this is because they are in pain themselves. i'm not sure, though, why the misfortune of a 13-year old girl would be more significant than someone else's.

These kinds of news are used to try to tell people that things are so well here in the west. i'm sorry, but the way people live here is to me just as horrible and violent and unnecessary as that girl's death. And nothing in this world that happens is entirely unnecessary.

Only people who don't realize this are those who are so numb that they've lost 99,9% of their soul (no one ever loses the whole of their soul), which might be the majority. Good news is, that anyone, and that means you also my dear reader, can redeem their soul in an instant of their own choosing.

Sadly, and i do mean sadly, nothing surprises me that comes out of civilized european countries these days...

i just don't think middle ages were any worse than modern age is. All that seems to have been real improvements are merely optical. Sure, people might not be put to death as much or there might be less violence, but perhaps violence was a lesser evil for those people than what the average westerner has to endure these days as his life.

Still waiting for a society like that of ancient Rome to emerge... some day.

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 19:12**

I think you might be confusing Ancient Rome with Ancient Greece. A new Hellenistic ideal might be interesting, a new sprawling empire based on conquest and slave exploitation won't be much fun for the majority..

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 20:47**

itnAklipse wrote:gibberish

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 21:04**

itnAklipse wrote:Sadly, and i do mean sadly, nothing surprises me that comes out of civilized european countries these days...

itnAklipse in a previous life wrote:God, i love life. And i love everything.

Posted: **06 Nov 2008, 21:27**

DeWinter wrote: Sadly, and I do mean sadly, nothing surprises me that comes out of Africa, or is done in the name of the "Religion of Peace".

I'm no friend of Islam at all (or of any other religion) but I've read that stoning a 13-years old is illegal even under Sharia law, so I wonder what excuse these ignorants really have.

Posted: **07 Nov 2008, 10:25**

itnAklipse wrote:i just don't think middle ages were any worse than modern age is. All that seems to have been real improvements are merely optical.

Smallpox
Typhoid
Typhus
Cholera
Polio

And agree with nowayjose, you can't pin this on Islam,

Posted: **07 Nov 2008, 15:42**

markfiend wrote: And agree with nowayjose, you can't pin this on Islam,

Very few atrocities can actually be pinned on religions but rather on the people who use religion (usually contradicting their chosen faith's basic principles) for their own ends.

Don't blame religion, blame people.

Posted: **07 Nov 2008, 15:48**

I blame Thatcher

Posted: **07 Nov 2008, 15:54**

stufarq wrote:Don't blame religion, blame people.

Posted: **07 Nov 2008, 22:17**

stufarq wrote:Don't blame religion, blame people.

Or blame the people who invented religions...

Posted: **07 Nov 2008, 22:36**

nowayjose wrote:
stufarq wrote:Don't blame religion, blame people.
Or blame the people who invented religions...

Do something about it or blame yourself, don't be a fukcing arse!!

Posted: **07 Nov 2008, 23:18**

25men wrote:
nowayjose wrote:
stufarq wrote:Don't blame religion, blame people.
Or blame the people who invented religions...
Do something about it or blame yourself, don't be a fukcing arse!!

Like, for example?

Nonviolent solutions preferred.

Posted: **07 Nov 2008, 23:42**

Not one person has mentioned faith.
I like the Pete Townsend line "faith in something bigger" so I've lived my life that way, since the mid 70s

he did write:
"faith in something bigger
faith inside us all"

but then, he'd never driven to Motherwell for 18 years, WTF does he ken!

Posted: **08 Nov 2008, 11:49**

Proof positive, if it were needed, that people = shit.
While I know many great individuals, as soon as you start grouping people together into religions, corporations, political parties and nations basic humanity seems to fly out of the window.
As a species, we never ever seem to learn.
Various crusades, two world wars and the holocaust and collectively we've still not learned any tolerance.

Worst of all, the mob lives inside every one of us, waiting for an unguarded moment.

Hands up anyone who has never laughed at a sexist or racist joke, who has never once felt a moment of hatred or anger towards someone based on their appearance or opinions.
Just because your conscience or some sense of inner morality kept it locked up doesn't mean it isn't lurking there.
As long as we keep it inside we can say we're better than those that would stone a thirteen year old rape victim to death, but don't be so certain you're different.

This this back, it seems I might have some anger issues this morning.

Posted: **08 Nov 2008, 11:52**

weebleswobble wrote:I blame Thatcher

Good call.

Posted: **08 Nov 2008, 15:07**

James Blast wrote:Not one person has mentioned faith.

stufarq wrote: Very few atrocities can actually be pinned on religions but rather on the people who use religion (usually contradicting their chosen faith's basic principles) for their own ends.

nowayjose wrote:
stufarq wrote:Don't blame religion, blame people.
Or blame the people who invented religions...

I think you missed the point of my post.

Posted: **08 Nov 2008, 15:15**

stufarq wrote: I think you missed the point of my post.

No, I just don't agree with your conclusion.

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13-year-old rape victim stoned for 'adultery' in Somaila

13-year-old rape victim stoned for 'adultery' in Somaila