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Watchmen! We love you uh?...

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 21:54
by James Blast
I'm not a fan of comic books (gave up around 14 or 15 with Marvel's New Gods) but this is not a rant.
I d/l Watchmen from TPB tonight it seemed it was time I was indoctrinated.
All through the 90s bands I was into kept quoting and citing it surely it was gonna be my thing?
Apart from the name and the image of the 'Smiley' with blood on it, I ken Zer0, yet its influence pervades, so in I went...

I had to stop the movie a third of the way through because I honestly couldn't figure out what the hell was going on. It looked fine and maybe I'm just having a 'dim day' but the plotline was all over the shop. So I'm here asking for help and pointers - I ken Alan Moore (knows the score) disassociated himself with it, but is it really that bad?

all I'm after is some guidance

Watchpeeps, I love you all!
James

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 21:58
by boudicca
Don't ask me, I can't follow the plot of a fcuking Mr. Men book these days :oops:

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 22:02
by emilystrange
i've seen it, james, and i'm still wondering 'wtf'

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 22:10
by weebleswobble
great film-great comic

am I missing something?

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 22:13
by Holly_DelRey
Not bad film but was nowt as good as the comic. Tab bit disappointed.
& aye, wasn't getting the 'plot' really.

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 22:18
by psichonaut
not a fan of comics myself...just some pron in youth...but i watched Watchmen movie and i liked it so much that i don't remember it at all

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 22:21
by James Blast
eh like duh!

you have been fuck all help so far :|

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 22:28
by christophe
what is there not to get? it is the best presentation of real life superheroes you can imagine.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 22:29
by Petseri
James Blast wrote:eh like duh!

you have been fuck all help so far :|
You want us to tell you what to think? You live a dangerous life! :P

Have you never seen a film where all the pieces are thrown out and ultimately they mesh together into one picture by the end? Watching only a third of the film may be the problem. Like you, I knew the art from the comics, but not the storyline. It is actually better that way because then you do not have any preconceived notions about what to expect. I went to see the film and gave it a thumbs up. It may not be Mad Max, but still worth seeing. Give it a try.

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 22:35
by christophe
Petseri wrote:
James Blast wrote:eh like duh!

you have been fuck all help so far :|
You want us to tell you what to think? You live a dangerous life! :P

Have you never seen a film where all the pieces are thrown out and ultimately they mesh together into one picture by the end? Watching only a third of the film may be the problem. Like you, I knew the art from the comics, but not the storyline. It is actually better that way because then you do not have any preconceived notions about what to expect. I went to see the film and gave it a thumbs up. It may not be Mad Max, but still worth seeing. Give it a try.
fact, I did not know about the comic before I watched the movie.
I loved every bit of that so I got myself a copy of the comic to again be amazed. I can see why they did chainge some stuff and I can see why the fans don't like the movie.
but still James, give it another chance.
if you have seen whe whole movie, come back and we'll be here to answer your questions :P :lol:

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 22:48
by James Blast
Petseri wrote:
James Blast wrote:eh like duh!

you have been fuck all help so far :|
You want us to tell you what to think? You live a dangerous life! :P

Have you never seen a film where all the pieces are thrown out and ultimately they mesh together into one picture by the end? Watching only a third of the film may be the problem. Like you, I knew the art from the comics, but not the storyline. It is actually better that way because then you do not have any preconceived notions about what to expect. I went to see the film and gave it a thumbs up. It may not be Mad Max, but still worth seeing. Give it a try.
Trinma WTF!? is that all about, have you started on the herbal tea? All I asked for was guidance, the fact I switched it off a third of the way in means I am willing to give it a go. Tit :|

Re: Watchmen! We love you uh?...

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 22:51
by Petseri
James Blast wrote:maybe I'm just having a 'dim day'
After your last post, I am afraid that we have confirmation.

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 00:08
by Erudite
Doctor Manhattan basically represents the "bomb" and by extension the pointlessness of "Cold War " mutually assured destruction, as do the superheroes in general. It is a very nihilistic text, particularly in regard to the original ending of the graphic novel.

Sod it, I'm too drunk/tired to really get in to this.
In summary - Kennedy and Nixon are cunts and you should read Neil Gaiman. :wink:

PS
Vote Lib Dem and all will be well, honest, guv.

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 00:11
by boudicca
You really are completely trolleyed, aren't you? :lol:

I note the spelling hasn't gone out the window, but I wouldn't expect it to with you. Here, have some Czech apricot moonshine :wink:

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 00:17
by Erudite
boudicca wrote:You really are completely trolleyed, aren't you? :lol:

I note the spelling hasn't gone out the window, but I wouldn't expect it to with you. Here, have some Czech apricot moonshine :wink:
Yes.
Ah moonshine...

Unfortunately, I must go, as I have to turn up at work tomorrow.
Luckily, I have the keys, no one else will be there, and I can be a complete gibbering wreck.
Rank has its privileges!
:P

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 03:35
by mh
I've raad it but haven't seen the movie. Thought it was OK, but it really did need a second read to get some of the more subtle nuances (like ******* was the guy with the "end of the world" sign all along - I completely missed that first time).

All the same, Judge Dredd is better. :D

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 05:20
by weebleswobble
The extended cut, but not the one with the pirates. The UK Blu-Ray doesn't have the director 'in picture' commentary-c**t!

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 13:09
by moses
Watchmen is a story set in an alternative 1985, where the world is ticking closer to the brink of nuclear war, and a plot to eliminate a band of ex-crime fighters is instigated, but why? and by whom? It is up to two of those ex-crime fighters to investigate the plot that seems to go beyond the unthinkable.

IT'S BOLLOCKS, MAKES NO SENSE :lol:

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 13:28
by Erudite
mh wrote:I've raad it but haven't seen the movie. Thought it was OK, but it really did need a second read to get some of the more subtle nuances (like ******* was the guy with the "end of the world" sign all along - I completely missed that first time).

All the same, Judge Dredd is better. :D
I hope you mean the comic and not the film?

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 14:31
by James Blast
thankee :D

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 19:03
by Garbageman
James,I loved the whole look of the movie but could not figure out what the hell was going on.

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 19:26
by Sita
I read the comic books, but they didn't really get me. Some things spark your imagination and others don't - it doesn't necessarily mean you don't understand it, or that the piece of artwork would be bad. Just different tempers, different tastes... forgive me if this is gibberish! I am trying to be philosophical in a foreign language ;D

I would be curious to see the film though. It should be weird.

Posted: 24 Apr 2010, 20:41
by GC
I thought it very watchable (see what I did there).

Why though did the Comedian and the Moluk(??) have to be murdered though - because they knew the big secret??

Liked the " hallelujah" scene :roll:

Posted: 25 Apr 2010, 00:15
by James Blast
I'll watch it next weekend or Tuesday, Oil City Confidential was much more interesting, and an history lesson for all you young punks ;D

Wilko Johnson is eastmidswizzkid :eek: :lol:

it's on BBC iPlayer for the next 8 days, go get educated

Posted: 25 Apr 2010, 12:06
by moses
James Blast wrote:I'll watch it next weekend or Tuesday, Oil City Confidential was much more interesting, and an history lesson for all you young punks ;D

Wilko Johnson is eastmidswizzkid :eek: :lol:

it's on BBC iPlayer for the next 8 days, go get educated
Watched it last night. I don't know eastmidswizzkid but I bet he can't play the guitar like Wilco. I love the idea that he was a school teacher :lol:
A superb documentary on a largely forgotten band :notworthy: