http://louderthanwar.com/blogs/top-10-p ... the-credit
Post punk is a much misunderstood period. You read the books and watch the documentaries and many bands get missed out of the story. History has glossed it over and turned it into a musical genre and as much as we love The Fall and Gang Of Four we feel there are a whole bunch of really influential bands who don’t get the credit that they deserve.
...
8. Sisters Of Mercy
They reinvented the drum machine and created a dark music that touched many- just ask Steve Albini who used them as a template for Big Black.
Post punk bands don't get the credit - #8 The Sisters
- demolitionsisters
- Road Kill
- Posts: 77
- Joined: 09 Feb 2011, 13:15
- Location: in a troll-forbidden not-so-g**thic lair
- Contact:
Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM or simply classic rock fused with punk speed, PERIOD.Quiff Boy wrote:http://louderthanwar.com/blogs/top-10-p ... the-credit
Post punk is a much misunderstood period. You read the books and watch the documentaries and many bands get missed out of the story. History has glossed it over and turned it into a musical genre and as much as we love The Fall and Gang Of Four we feel there are a whole bunch of really influential bands who don’t get the credit that they deserve.
...
8. Sisters Of Mercy
They reinvented the drum machine and created a dark music that touched many- just ask Steve Albini who used them as a template for Big Black.
I mean just compare Motorhead with Killing joke, no doubt who are the undisputed leaders of post-punk, even lyrically most PP bands were innovative and diverse not quite like the elder boozy bands who'd often capitalise on their music only to get a good shag every once in awhile or some booze for that matter, NAFF SAID.
Last edited by demolitionsisters on 09 Jan 2012, 17:07, edited 1 time in total.
- markfiend
- goriller of form 3b
- Posts: 21181
- Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
- Location: st custards
- Contact:
I think it's quite telling that fans of all sorts of genres of music try to co-opt Motörhead as one of thier own.
And did you see what I did there? I put the "Metäl Ümläüt" in the right place on Motörhead
And did you see what I did there? I put the "Metäl Ümläüt" in the right place on Motörhead
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell
- markfiend
- goriller of form 3b
- Posts: 21181
- Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
- Location: st custards
- Contact:
Well, yes.Being645 wrote:Motörhead are just the cool thing itself ... ...
(He's called Lemmy )
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell
- moses
- Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
- Posts: 564
- Joined: 03 Sep 2008, 12:38
- Location: On The Darkside Of The Tune
You need a history lesson.demolitionsisters wrote:
Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM.
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity
- Being645
- Wiki Wizard
- Posts: 15274
- Joined: 09 Apr 2009, 12:54
- Location: reconstruction status: whatever the f**k
Of course ... ... wrong button ... anyway, they're ultimate Rock'n Roll ... ...markfiend wrote:Well, yes.Being645 wrote:Motörhead are just the cool thing itself ... ...
(He's called Lemmy )
- christophe
- Overbomber
- Posts: 3527
- Joined: 17 Jan 2004, 09:42
- Location: Grinderstreet
Motorhead just is, no need to label them.moses wrote:You need a history lesson.demolitionsisters wrote:
Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM.
Lemmy is the Chuck Norris of rock 'n roll. except we do not make fun of him
Another Shade of You.
- radiojamaica
- Overbomber
- Posts: 4875
- Joined: 11 Apr 2005, 16:51
- Location: Tower of Bass
Oh yes we dochristophe wrote: Lemmy is the Chuck Norris of rock 'n roll. except we do not make fun of him
in dub we trust
- Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
- Overbomber
- Posts: 2485
- Joined: 04 Aug 2011, 23:35
- Location: Scotland
- Contact:
Motorhead Shmotorhead.
Is the author of the blog THE John Robb (of Membranes, Goldblade and Sounds/Channel 4 fame) ? Can't say that many of his list didn't get the credit they deserved - most will still earn a reasonable living from their back catalogue. Good to see someone (posting further down the page) suggesting a link to Legion rather than Westworld as an intro to ToH. The latter used to reduce the dancefloor at the Phono to a turkey-trotting bequiffed minority for its lengthy, repetitious whining, whereas the menacing intro to the former would get some great moshing started, and the surprise ending would always catch a few out !
At least johnrobb's inspired choice of Sisters song will entice more than a few people to investigate the Girls a little further
Is the author of the blog THE John Robb (of Membranes, Goldblade and Sounds/Channel 4 fame) ? Can't say that many of his list didn't get the credit they deserved - most will still earn a reasonable living from their back catalogue. Good to see someone (posting further down the page) suggesting a link to Legion rather than Westworld as an intro to ToH. The latter used to reduce the dancefloor at the Phono to a turkey-trotting bequiffed minority for its lengthy, repetitious whining, whereas the menacing intro to the former would get some great moshing started, and the surprise ending would always catch a few out !
At least johnrobb's inspired choice of Sisters song will entice more than a few people to investigate the Girls a little further
And the future Mr DebaserNikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote: THE John Robb
You know everyone every 5 years or so should listen to Crass. No more than that mind you and perhaps I actually mean 10 years. I recall a gig they played here in Lincoln way back when - I think I'm right in describing it as carnage - I was very drunk.
Five cups of coffee just to be myself...when I'd rather be somebody else
- sultan2075
- Overbomber
- Posts: 2379
- Joined: 04 Mar 2005, 19:17
- Location: Washington, D. C.
- Contact:
By God, do I love CRASS. The reissues are fantastic; especially Stations.Debaser wrote:And the future Mr DebaserNikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote: THE John Robb
You know everyone every 5 years or so should listen to Crass. No more than that mind you and perhaps I actually mean 10 years. I recall a gig they played here in Lincoln way back when - I think I'm right in describing it as carnage - I was very drunk.
But yeah, at my age, every 5 years sounds about right.
--
The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
In what way is Chuck Norris cool?christophe wrote:Motorhead just is, no need to label them.moses wrote:You need a history lesson.demolitionsisters wrote:
Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM.
Lemmy is the Chuck Norris of rock 'n roll. except we do not make fun of him
Come to think of it, in what way is Motorhead cool?
demolitionsisters wrote: Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM or simply classic rock fused with punk speed, PERIOD.
Sorry, but this thing about which genre or sub-genre a band belongs to is basically two hairy fleshy sacks that hang between your legs.
It does not matter.
A good band is a good band, and it's completely irrelevant whether they're post-punk, metal, mod, punk, ska, new romantic, NWOBHM, Uzbekistani Arse flute music or whatever.
It does not matter.
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
- Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
- Overbomber
- Posts: 2485
- Joined: 04 Aug 2011, 23:35
- Location: Scotland
- Contact:
I would still maintain that The Sisters, Motorhead et al on Mr Robb's list have had plenty of attention and credit over the years. Other 80s bands such as RLYL, UK Decay, Scars, The Rose of Avalanche, Neon Judgement, The Young Gods, B Movie and (add your own suitable candidates to the list) never get a mention these days.
Are there other forums like this one dedicated to (relatively underground) bands? I'm not talking about megabands that every man and his dog would know of - but bands like TSOM that are a fairly specialised audience.
- Silver_Owl
- The Don
- Posts: 7498
- Joined: 27 Sep 2003, 18:52
Zeno probably has a couple of albums of that genre.markfiend wrote:mh wrote:Uzbekistani Arse flute music
We forgive as we forget
As the day is long.
As the day is long.
First of all- . Second- agree, categorization is job for musicologists or formh wrote:Sorry, but this thing about which genre or sub-genre a band belongs to is basically two hairy fleshy sacks that hang between your legs.demolitionsisters wrote: Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM or simply classic rock fused with punk speed, PERIOD.
It does not matter.
A good band is a good band, and it's completely irrelevant whether they're post-punk, metal, mod, punk, ska, new romantic, NWOBHM, Uzbekistani Arse flute music or whatever.
- Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
- Overbomber
- Posts: 2485
- Joined: 04 Aug 2011, 23:35
- Location: Scotland
- Contact:
Miserabile dictu most bands seem to have a Forum these days - even Merciful Nuns - http://www.hypogeum.org/ sample forum topic "What occult music are you listening to ?" Hmmm...bearskin wrote:Are there other forums like this one dedicated to (relatively underground) bands? I'm not talking about megabands that every man and his dog would know of - but bands like TSOM that are a fairly specialised audience.
- ribbons69
- Slight Overbomber
- Posts: 1652
- Joined: 24 Jan 2009, 12:57
- Location: Somewhere, terrified of dying.
Yes,but in their case "occult music",translates as "what bands that want to be the Fields Of The Nephilim" are you listening to?Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:Miserabile dictu most bands seem to have a Forum these days - even Merciful Nuns - http://www.hypogeum.org/ sample forum topic "What occult music are you listening to ?" Hmmm...bearskin wrote:Are there other forums like this one dedicated to (relatively underground) bands? I'm not talking about megabands that every man and his dog would know of - but bands like TSOM that are a fairly specialised audience.
"I've seen Andrew Eldritch in an ice hockey shirt onstage, and I've given him the benefit of the doubt"
Tom G Warrior of Celtic Frost
we fall to rise
Tom G Warrior of Celtic Frost
we fall to rise
- Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
- Overbomber
- Posts: 2485
- Joined: 04 Aug 2011, 23:35
- Location: Scotland
- Contact:
Aye, and 90% of the posts are from a Spanish fantasist with a ridiculous made up pseudonym (not that there's anything wrong with that, you understand ) who clearly fancies himself as some sort of gothic overlordribbons69 wrote:Yes,but in their case "occult music",translates as "what bands that want to be the Fields Of The Nephilim" are you listening to?Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote: Miserabile dictu most bands seem to have a Forum these days - even Merciful Nuns - http://www.hypogeum.org/ sample forum topic "What occult music are you listening to ?" Hmmm...
Two questionsNikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:Miserabile dictu most bands seem to have a Forum these days - even Merciful Nuns - http://www.hypogeum.org/ sample forum topic "What occult music are you listening to ?" Hmmm...bearskin wrote:Are there other forums like this one dedicated to (relatively underground) bands? I'm not talking about megabands that every man and his dog would know of - but bands like TSOM that are a fairly specialised audience.
1. How?
2. Why?