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Post punk is a much misunderstood period. You read the books and watch the documentaries and many bands get missed out of the story. History has glossed it over and turned it into a musical genre and as much as we love The Fall and Gang Of Four we feel there are a whole bunch of really influential bands who don’t get the credit that they deserve.

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8. Sisters Of Mercy
They reinvented the drum machine and created a dark music that touched many- just ask Steve Albini who used them as a template for Big Black.

Quiff Boy wrote:http://louderthanwar.com/blogs/top-10-p ... the-credit

Post punk is a much misunderstood period. You read the books and watch the documentaries and many bands get missed out of the story. History has glossed it over and turned it into a musical genre and as much as we love The Fall and Gang Of Four we feel there are a whole bunch of really influential bands who don’t get the credit that they deserve.

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8. Sisters Of Mercy
They reinvented the drum machine and created a dark music that touched many- just ask Steve Albini who used them as a template for Big Black.

Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM or simply classic rock fused with punk speed, PERIOD.
I mean just compare Motorhead with Killing joke, no doubt who are the undisputed leaders of post-punk, even lyrically most PP bands were innovative and diverse not quite like the elder boozy bands who'd often capitalise on their music only to get a good shag every once in awhile or some booze for that matter, NAFF SAID.

I think it's quite telling that fans of all sorts of genres of music try to co-opt Motörhead as one of thier own.

And did you see what I did there? I put the "Metäl Ümläüt" in the right place on Motörhead

Motörhead are just the cool thing itself ... ...

Pre-Punk rather, than anything though ... and doesn't Lenny have his star on the walk of fame ... ...

Being645 wrote:Motörhead are just the cool thing itself ... ...

Well, yes.

(He's called Lemmy )

demolitionsisters wrote:
Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM.

You need a history lesson.

markfiend wrote:

Being645 wrote:Motörhead are just the cool thing itself ... ...

Well, yes.

(He's called Lemmy )

Of course ... ... wrong button ... anyway, they're ultimate Rock'n Roll ... ...

moses wrote:

demolitionsisters wrote:
Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM.

You need a history lesson.

Motorhead just is, no need to label them.
Lemmy is the Chuck Norris of rock 'n roll. except we do not make fun of him

christophe wrote: Lemmy is the Chuck Norris of rock 'n roll. except we do not make fun of him

Oh yes we do

Motorhead Shmotorhead.

Is the author of the blog THE John Robb (of Membranes, Goldblade and Sounds/Channel 4 fame) ? Can't say that many of his list didn't get the credit they deserved - most will still earn a reasonable living from their back catalogue. Good to see someone (posting further down the page) suggesting a link to Legion rather than Westworld as an intro to ToH. The latter used to reduce the dancefloor at the Phono to a turkey-trotting bequiffed minority for its lengthy, repetitious whining, whereas the menacing intro to the former would get some great moshing started, and the surprise ending would always catch a few out !
At least johnrobb's inspired choice of Sisters song will entice more than a few people to investigate the Girls a little further

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote: THE John Robb

And the future Mr Debaser

You know everyone every 5 years or so should listen to Crass. No more than that mind you and perhaps I actually mean 10 years. I recall a gig they played here in Lincoln way back when - I think I'm right in describing it as carnage - I was very drunk.

Debaser wrote:

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote: THE John Robb

And the future Mr Debaser

You know everyone every 5 years or so should listen to Crass. No more than that mind you and perhaps I actually mean 10 years. I recall a gig they played here in Lincoln way back when - I think I'm right in describing it as carnage - I was very drunk.

By God, do I love CRASS. The reissues are fantastic; especially Stations.

But yeah, at my age, every 5 years sounds about right.

christophe wrote:

moses wrote:

demolitionsisters wrote:
Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM.

You need a history lesson.

Motorhead just is, no need to label them.
Lemmy is the Chuck Norris of rock 'n roll. except we do not make fun of him

In what way is Chuck Norris cool?

Come to think of it, in what way is Motorhead cool?

demolitionsisters wrote: Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM or simply classic rock fused with punk speed, PERIOD.

Sorry, but this thing about which genre or sub-genre a band belongs to is basically two hairy fleshy sacks that hang between your legs.

It does not matter.

A good band is a good band, and it's completely irrelevant whether they're post-punk, metal, mod, punk, ska, new romantic, NWOBHM, Uzbekistani Arse flute music or whatever.

It does not matter.

I would still maintain that The Sisters, Motorhead et al on Mr Robb's list have had plenty of attention and credit over the years. Other 80s bands such as RLYL, UK Decay, Scars, The Rose of Avalanche, Neon Judgement, The Young Gods, B Movie and (add your own suitable candidates to the list) never get a mention these days.

Are there other forums like this one dedicated to (relatively underground) bands? I'm not talking about megabands that every man and his dog would know of - but bands like TSOM that are a fairly specialised audience.

mh wrote:Uzbekistani Arse flute music

markfiend wrote:

mh wrote:Uzbekistani Arse flute music

Zeno probably has a couple of albums of that genre.

mh wrote:

demolitionsisters wrote: Motorhead post-punk: NO FUCKIN' WAY! NWOBHM or simply classic rock fused with punk speed, PERIOD.

Sorry, but this thing about which genre or sub-genre a band belongs to is basically two hairy fleshy sacks that hang between your legs.

It does not matter.

A good band is a good band, and it's completely irrelevant whether they're post-punk, metal, mod, punk, ska, new romantic, NWOBHM, Uzbekistani Arse flute music or whatever.

First of all- . Second- agree, categorization is job for musicologists or for

bearskin wrote:Are there other forums like this one dedicated to (relatively underground) bands? I'm not talking about megabands that every man and his dog would know of - but bands like TSOM that are a fairly specialised audience.

Miserabile dictu most bands seem to have a Forum these days - even Merciful Nuns - http://www.hypogeum.org/ sample forum topic "What occult music are you listening to ?" Hmmm...

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:

bearskin wrote:Are there other forums like this one dedicated to (relatively underground) bands? I'm not talking about megabands that every man and his dog would know of - but bands like TSOM that are a fairly specialised audience.

Miserabile dictu most bands seem to have a Forum these days - even Merciful Nuns - http://www.hypogeum.org/ sample forum topic "What occult music are you listening to ?" Hmmm...

Yes,but in their case "occult music",translates as "what bands that want to be the Fields Of The Nephilim" are you listening to?

ribbons69 wrote:

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote: Miserabile dictu most bands seem to have a Forum these days - even Merciful Nuns - http://www.hypogeum.org/ sample forum topic "What occult music are you listening to ?" Hmmm...

Yes,but in their case "occult music",translates as "what bands that want to be the Fields Of The Nephilim" are you listening to?

Aye, and 90% of the posts are from a Spanish fantasist with a ridiculous made up pseudonym (not that there's anything wrong with that, you understand ) who clearly fancies himself as some sort of gothic overlord

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:

bearskin wrote:Are there other forums like this one dedicated to (relatively underground) bands? I'm not talking about megabands that every man and his dog would know of - but bands like TSOM that are a fairly specialised audience.

Miserabile dictu most bands seem to have a Forum these days - even Merciful Nuns - http://www.hypogeum.org/ sample forum topic "What occult music are you listening to ?" Hmmm...

Two questions

1. How?

2. Why?