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WTF!!!

And it's using the covers me, reverend and others are creating here... And I just love the first one...

http://nz.ioffer.com/i/the-sisters-of-m ... -477131460

http://nz.ioffer.com/i/the-sisters-of-m ... -513605094

http://nz.ioffer.com/i/the-sisters-of-m ... -525861194

http://nz.ioffer.com/i/the-sisters-of-m ... -531125106

http://nz.ioffer.com/i/the-sisters-of-m ... -531123930

http://nz.ioffer.com/i/dvd-sisters-of-m ... -507902982

http://nz.ioffer.com/i/dvd-sisters-of-m ... -507900142

I'm one step closer to disappear for ever in cyberspace...

Pah .... ...

Is there any chance to complain as there is with eBay? Perhaps that could help ... ...

I don't know - after the last experience with ebay/communicating with sellers everything feels like you can just scratch the surface a bit - much efforts, zero results.

shit

let me know if there's anything you think i can do. i know its unlikely but i suppose t could make a difference coming from the admin of an online community?

plus, there's a chance i could have a word with a few people and get a complaint lodged from some more official channels

They don't go out of their way to provide a "reporting" feature do they?

I think this is the best bet
http://nz.ioffer.com/info/copyright_policy

But I don't know if you need to demonstrate you own the IP.

Pista wrote:They don't go out of their way to provide a "reporting" feature do they?

I think this is the best bet
http://nz.ioffer.com/info/copyright_policy

But I don't know if you need to demonstrate you own the IP.

Yup, this is their response from the email that we sent regarding the Skinny Puppy DVDs taken from the blog and being sold there:

Thank you for your message. iOffer values input from users who contribute to a positive buying and selling community. We take intellectual property rights seriously and make every effort investigate violations of our Terms of Service.

If you are an intellectual property owner and would like to prepare a takedown notice which substantially complies with the provisions set forth at 17 U.S.C. Section 512(c) of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"), or for further information on iOffer's DMCA policy, please visit: http://www.ioffer.com/info/copyright_policy

Thanks,

iOffer.com

Thank you,
iOffer
Copyright Division
copyright@ioffer.com

So unless you can prove you have the copyright, complaining means nothing to them

We can - as a minimum - create an explicit thread here (and elsewhere on blogs, in the SistersWiki etc) giving pictures - not only links as they will fail sooner or later - of all such stolen recordings including the names of those sellers.

@circle.

Another option is to create your own "DCR" logo, copyright it & put it on the cover art somewhere.
You'd have a credible claim to IP rights for the artwork at least.
It won't stop it, but would serve to make it more difficult for the sellers.
Additionally, if the blog's url is also on the cover art, then people viewing the items for sale may visit the blog rather than get scammed by the sellers.

Pista wrote:@circle.

Another option is to create your own "DCR" logo, copyright it & put it on the cover art somewhere.
You'd have a credible claim to IP rights for the artwork at least.
It won't stop it, but would serve to make it more difficult for the sellers.
Additionally, if the blog's url is also on the cover art, then people viewing the items for sale may visit the blog rather than get scammed by the sellers.

I do it, and also say, do not sell!!! even so they use the covers as advertisement...

Example here:

http://nz.ioffer.com/i/skinny-puppy-dvd ... -533524720

When I put the multicams up for weeding i added an anti-ebay message to the start of the disc - the discs would have to be re-encoded to remove it.
Ive seen some discs that have been shared with a "for your consideration" type message burnt into the picture at a couple of points too.
Ultimately, as soon as one other person has a copy it is out of your control though

czuczu wrote:When I put the multicams up for weeding i added an anti-ebay message to the start of the disc - the discs would have to be re-encoded to remove it.
Ive seen some discs that have been shared with a "for your consideration" type message burnt into the picture at a couple of points too.
Ultimately, as soon as one other person has a copy it is out of your control though

Yeah, something like this one ... ...

some people prefer to buy fan recording stuff than searching on the net for a free copy and are too lazy to print artwork

The most stupid between the seller and buyer is definitely the buyer

Speaking of lazy........

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-15-Siste ... 53f4b43410

Rise891 wrote:Speaking of lazy........

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-15-Siste ... 53f4b43410

we have a winner !

I've downloaded the highlights so selling them on. Sound quality varies.

LOL - that's at least honest

I wouldn't publish any future releases that aren't visually and/or audio-wised watermarked. I've read from other, usually more active tapers that they lost interest in sharing stuff at all so I guess there's less quality stuff to expect in the future. Perhaps they'll think about start sharing incomplete 64kb/s MP3 filesets one day - for the enthusiasts..

One solution would be to undercut that person on ioffer by advertising them yourself, and sell download links for 1 penny/1 cent (since it probably doesn't allow you to sell something for free.)
Or instead of "Any questions please ask" like that person has, you can have "for a free download link please ask".