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Legal contact for copyright stuff?
Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 07:33
by Chaotican
Does anyone know who to contact for permission to use a phrase? I’ve got a creative project called “Some Girls Wander By Mistake” and it seems rude to not ask, at least.
I was actually married to a copyright attorney when I created it and he told me it’s legal to use it (and credit is given), but I would change the title if asked. Anyhow, i doubt anyone would notice or care, but it still feels presumptuous to move forward without asking!
Re: Legal contact for copyright stuff?
Posted: 01 Sep 2021, 18:06
by mh
It's from a Leonard Cohen song, so I'd guess they're the people you'd potentially need to clear it with.
Re: Legal contact for copyright stuff?
Posted: 01 Sep 2021, 22:17
by Chaotican
mh wrote: ↑01 Sep 2021, 18:06
It's from a Leonard Cohen song, so I'd guess they're the people you'd potentially need to clear it with.
Agree on the origin, and Teachers is part of why I chose the title. However, its not possible to copyright a phrase in a song, or even the name of an album, according to my ex. The issue becomes one of trademark minutiae if there could be any confusion due to associations and customer expectations and
....
Just felt like a dick move. Like naming your new cat the same name that your coworker picked out for their soon-to-be-born baby or something. Of course, it’s probably equally as impactful, so I won’t worry about it too much!
Re: Legal contact for copyright stuff?
Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 08:19
by iesus
It's like naming a kid. You may be in an embarrassed situation by naming it with a strange name, but none will sue you ( just laugh behind you, which is awful )
Re: Legal contact for copyright stuff?
Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 11:22
by abridged
I've used lines from Sisters songs on my exhibitions and magazines pretty regularly. I had a Brand New Darkness exhibition in Galway and A Many Splintered Thing exhibition in Derry for instance. Generally i just give credit to
in the editorial. I suspect that most people would be fine with somebody using a line from a song as a project title. The one time I did ask was when I took a line from a World Of Skin song for an exhibition in Belfast as I'd heard Michael Gira could maybe be annoyed by it. I asked Mr Gira who was absolutely fine about it. In fact Swans played in Belfast during the run of the show. Don't know if he saw the show though!
Re: Legal contact for copyright stuff?
Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 14:22
by Chaotican
abridged wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 11:22
I've used lines from Sisters songs on my exhibitions and magazines pretty regularly.
I am now curious to see these! Have anything coming up?
Sound interpretation you’ve got there, I expect. It was my cousin, searching on Amazon for my thing and texting me, “you know...there’s a band that used that title...” that did it.
Well, that and iesus’s taunting laughter.
Re: Legal contact for copyright stuff?
Posted: 04 Sep 2021, 12:26
by abridged
Chaotican wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 14:22
abridged wrote: ↑02 Sep 2021, 11:22
I've used lines from Sisters songs on my exhibitions and magazines pretty regularly.
I am now curious to see these! Have anything coming up?
Sound interpretation you’ve got there, I expect. It was my cousin, searching on Amazon for my thing and texting me, “you know...there’s a band that used that title...” that did it.
Well, that and iesus’s taunting laughter.
Here's a review that was in The Irish Times...
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/art- ... -1.3613834
and here's info on the Derry show...
https://www.derryvoid.com/exhibitions/a ... red-thing/
Abridged has a Dominion issue coming up...info re the submission call will be on
https://www.abridged.zone/ from Monday. I use Sisters lines/titles as a starting point. The shows/magazines are always very different...
Re: Legal contact for copyright stuff?
Posted: 05 Sep 2021, 20:27
by Chaotican
That was fun to browse, thank you. I do see the borrowed phrases, and even some attached assumptions. Bold, abridged.
I’d check it out if I were near an exhibition.
(I’ll put a link to my novel in my profile, I suppose. Website section.)
Thanks for the assurance, or comradery in lack of it, at any rate!