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I am NOT a number...
Posted: 24 Apr 2004, 20:57
by Mrs. Snowey
Obviously, a lot of Heartlanders will be aware of the machinations behind this, but it looks like the scheme has finally been green-lit:
http://channels.aolsvc.co.uk/news/artic ... 5609990004
Love this quote:
"Civil servants have been taking part in tests for several months but this is the first time members of the public have been able to undergo the procedures."
Lucky us eh?
Posted: 24 Apr 2004, 22:57
by Gripper
All I got when I hit the link was aol's home page....but if I understand what you're referring to, it's not surprising is it? To any government, we ARE just a collection of inappropriately-orientated magnetic particles on some computer somewhere. And the sooner we are a collection of those on some card or other, they reason, the better.
Though, to my children, I'm still 'Daddy.'
To my family, I'm either someone who loves them or someone who's a disappointment.
To my friends, I'm still the person that caused them to want me to be a friend.
To the people I work with, I hope that I'm a help.
To some people I pass in the street, I might be 'I looked at him.'
Not an exhaustive list, but NO, I'm not a number...
Posted: 24 Apr 2004, 23:09
by Andie
I think that i am a number...
i am of course...one of a kind...
i'm also single...
i could be a couple...
and it seems that i've had a few...
Posted: 24 Apr 2004, 23:14
by Gripper
I think that i am the number one...
i am of course...one of a kind...
i'm also a six over long on...
i could be a couple sneaked to fine leg...
and it seems that i've had more than a few...
Posted: 24 Apr 2004, 23:40
by Thrash Harry
And one day, in a land not far away, you'll just be an email address.
Posted: 25 Apr 2004, 14:58
by Andie
Gripper wrote:i could be a couple sneaked to fine leg...
what is that?...
methinksyouarepishedmatey
Posted: 25 Apr 2004, 15:06
by Gripper
Burn wrote:Gripper wrote:i could be a couple sneaked to fine leg...
what is that?...
methinksyouarepishedmatey
Cricketing term. And yes I was. Now, sadly, not. When O when will those science boffins invent everlasting alcohol? It can't be
that hard...
Posted: 25 Apr 2004, 22:44
by Andie
Gripper wrote:Burn wrote:Gripper wrote:i could be a couple sneaked to fine leg...
what is that?...
methinksyouarepishedmatey
Cricketing term. And yes I was. Now, sadly, not. When O when will those science boffins invent everlasting alcohol? It can't be
that hard...
Ahh Cricket...
not a game that i have cause to follow in Essex...
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 00:00
by James Blast
Silly Mid Off etc. It's all
Swahili to me
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 00:20
by Black Planet
No Mrs Snowey you are NOT a number.
But where I live I do HAVE a number. It's my social security number. It was my University ID number, but now a days...we don't use that number as such due to identity theft. Which is rampant here in the USA.
I remember travelling to Canberra AU on business and my Aussie colleagues....they were appallled that we had ....... Numbers. They thought it was the greatest anti freedom mechanism they could ever contemplate.
I have a number which my government uses to track me.
Happy? NO. Accept it. Yes.
Without it ...I can't get employment, which gets me health insurance. Mr. Bp too. He's on my plan.
It's a necessary part of our lives...which is why when anyone asks...privacy laws come into effect. We have to have them to protect us... And that is one reason Americans are so Keen to protection of our Privacy.. I mean really. do we want our med records available to one and all????
I dont think so... and I know,,..it's a fine line isn't my US compatriots?
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 09:58
by andymackem
Burn wrote:Gripper wrote:Burn wrote:
what is that?...
methinksyouarepishedmatey
Cricketing term. And yes I was. Now, sadly, not. When O when will those science boffins invent everlasting alcohol? It can't be
that hard...
Ahh Cricket...
not a game that i have cause to follow in Essex...
Nonsense. Get yourself up to Chelmsford on a warm summer's afternoon and enjoy the thwack of willow on leather. Wait til they play Durham and I'll even shout for the beers.
As for numbers, I could be nine while nine, or I could be seven of nine. But I'd probably be 1973 for preference.
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 13:50
by straylight
In the UK we already have a number- our national insurance number that we get at about age 16. New arrivals are allocated numbers & we all keep the same one for ever.
So, in theory, they can track us all already. But somehow they say they can't, & that's why (they say) there is so much benefit fraud etc. If they can't manage itty bitty info like this, no way are they having my iris print, fingerprints or DNA & asking me to pay for the privilege. I can't see that suddenly they'll be efficient & not confuse my biodata with someone who deserves a cavity search.
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 13:58
by Quiff Boy
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 14:00
by Quiff Boy
straylight wrote:So, in theory, they can track us all already. But somehow they say they can't
always wondered about that myself...
something to do with the official secrets act and different departments and organisations not having access to other departments' information stores i assume
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 14:02
by markfiend
For one, people in favour of ID cards keep asserting that "people with nothing to hide" should be in favour of ID cards. I think that pretty much everyone has "something to hide"; there are skeletons in everyone's closet.
For second, this nonsense is budgeted to cost £30billion IIRC; a feck of a lot of hospitals, schools, police, whatever, could be funded with this, never mind the inevitability of budget over-spend on any government IT project
For third, as straylight points out, it is almost certain that mistakes will creep into the system somewhere along the line. How do the government know that you are who you say you are when you first apply for your ID card? What's to stop someone getting a card under a false identity?
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 14:03
by Silver_Owl
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 14:06
by Quiff Boy
you're a number too. you're 303!
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 14:08
by hallucienate
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 14:17
by Chairman Bux
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 14:19
by emilystrange
i havent found a number that suits me.
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 15:06
by hallucienate
emilystrange wrote:i havent found a number that suits me.
you're number 428
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 15:30
by emilystrange
it might be a bit big
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 15:37
by hallucienate
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 16:18
by Thrash Harry
That was uncommonly decent of you old chap. I thought we were on for a bit more fox chasing there.
Do I understand you have some exams coming up Ms Strange? If so, the very best of British to you.
Posted: 26 Apr 2004, 17:43
by Andie
andymackem wrote:Burn wrote:Gripper wrote:
Cricketing term. And yes I was. Now, sadly, not. When O when will those science boffins invent everlasting alcohol? It can't be that hard...
Ahh Cricket...
not a game that i have cause to follow in Essex...
Nonsense. Get yourself up to Chelmsford on a warm summer's afternoon and enjoy the thwack of willow on leather. Wait til they play Durham and I'll even shout for the beers.
As for numbers, I could be nine while nine, or I could be seven of nine. But I'd probably be 1973 for preference.
Chelmsford?...you mean that they play cricket there too??
i just don't see the fasination of watching grown men wearing virginal white throwing balls at eachother...
almost as boring as baseball...and thankfully we don't have baseball on UK TV