I'm right in the middle of a silly 84-rare-and-live-track Ministry compilation.
Is it just me or did they actually hit creative rock bottom in the mid-to-late 90s ? My God these Dark side of the spoon songs suck balls !
Not only that, but even the "old" songs were then played quite poorly.
What's really fun on the other hand are the crazy live versions from the Land, Mind and Psalm 69 tours. They play not only Ministry tracks, but also songs by Revolting cocks (no surprise here), a whole lot of covers, and even the Lard songs !
Judging from the official releases and the few boots I had, I had no idea the live shows used to be that varied. Any souvenir from those now distant years ?
Ministry : creative low point ?
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I would've given several useless bodyparts to see Ministry LIVE playing Lard and RevCo songs...
Agreed, "Dark Side..." ain't the best effort ever, and I'm gonna be shot by some here, but the "With Sympathy" thingy was utter bollox as well...
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Agreed, "Dark Side..." ain't the best effort ever, and I'm gonna be shot by some here, but the "With Sympathy" thingy was utter bollox as well...
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better add Filth Pig and that Animositythingey
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Nah, I think Animositisomina wasn't actually that bad, definitely kicked more than Dark Side and Filth Pig..James Blast wrote:better add Filth Pig and that Animositythingey
Anyway, I still consider The Mind is Terrible thing to be their opus..
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The only track I like on Dark side is this heavy-slow-dark-new-wave-ish thingy called Kaif. The rest is utter pish.Izzy HaveMercy wrote: Agreed, "Dark Side..." ain't the best effort ever, and I'm gonna be shot by some here,
No argument here.but the "With Sympathy" thingy was utter bollox as well...
@ Blast : I quite liked Filth Pig when it came out, but in retrospect I can now say it is a very poor album with only a few good songs on it.
OMG I'm listening to a 2003 live version of the song We believe !
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I'm locked and loaded, baby.I'm gonna be shot by some here, but the "With Sympathy" thingy was utter bollox as well...
I personally think Psalm was the beginning of the end.
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aha, i didIzzy HaveMercy wrote:I would've given several useless bodyparts to see Ministry LIVE playing Lard and RevCo songs...
Agreed, "Dark Side..." ain't the best effort ever, and I'm gonna be shot by some here, but the "With Sympathy" thingy was utter bollox as well...
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but you'll get your chance for hearing revco songs live very soon
and here in Lier
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Shameless self-promotion, without derailing a thread, I think this is a first!
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Be there or be oblong
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Yihaaa, squeal!!!!!!Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Shameless self-promotion, without derailing a thread, I think this is a first!
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I think Animositisomina is a really strong album.Doktor Gott wrote:Nah, I think Animositisomina wasn't actually that bad, definitely kicked more than Dark Side and Filth Pig..James Blast wrote:better add Filth Pig and that Animositythingey
Anyway, I still consider The Mind is Terrible thing to be their opus..
Feels like the natural follow up to Psalm 69.
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Oh, you're absolutely right. It's all downhill from that point.nick the stripper wrote:
I personally think Psalm was the beginning of the end.
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I will NOT have it said that Houses of the Molé and Rio Grande Blood are "Downhill"sultan2075 wrote:Oh, you're absolutely right. It's all downhill from that point.nick the stripper wrote:
I personally think Psalm was the beginning of the end.
Kicking Barker in the nadgers AND out on the streets was one of the best things that happened to Ministry. Both albums are heavy as FECK!which, for the record and complete understanding, is a GOOD thing...
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so what was the best album. I'll give it a try.
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In MY opinion, and in chronological order from oldest to recent:christophe wrote:so what was the best album. I'll give it a try.
The Land Of Rape And Honey
Psalm 69: The Way To Succeed and the Way To Suck Eggs
Jesus Built My HotRod (single CD, I ken, but it's worth buying )
Houses of the Molé
Rio Grande Blood
There's a golden rule actually:
Look at American History and Politics: when there's a BUSH in the White House, Ministry Albums are ace...
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special mention for: In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up video/DVD def. worth a viewing or 69, apart from Jello Biafra making a FUD of himself, of course
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Replete with Jello burning the US flag during The Land of Rape and Honey at the end..James Blast wrote:special mention for: In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up video/DVD def. worth a viewing or 69, apart from Jello Biafra making a FUD of himself, of course
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Oh, I've got 'em. I just think that after Psalm 69, Ministry started to get really, well...boring.Izzy HaveMercy wrote:I will NOT have it said that Houses of the Molé and Rio Grande Blood are "Downhill"sultan2075 wrote:Oh, you're absolutely right. It's all downhill from that point.nick the stripper wrote:
I personally think Psalm was the beginning of the end.
Kicking Barker in the nadgers AND out on the streets was one of the best things that happened to Ministry. Both albums are heavy as FECK!which, for the record and complete understanding, is a GOOD thing...
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Gnh.sultan2075 wrote:after Psalm 69, Ministry started to get really, well...boring.
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You don't like The mind is a terrible thing to taste ?!Izzy HaveMercy wrote: The Land Of Rape And Honey
Psalm 69: The Way To Succeed and the Way To Suck Eggs
Jesus Built My HotRod (single CD, I ken, but it's worth buying )
Houses of the Molé
Rio Grande Blood
Best Ministry albums IMHO are Mind & Psalm 69. Land is a close third.
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I think Mind is more like a RevCo album, Chris Connolly featured heavily on it, not a bad thing in my view.
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I have Psalm 69 just for the song Jesus Built My HotRod.
but I have to give it another listen to judge the other songs this isn't exactly my kind of music, I like it but at the same time it all sounds the same to me.
I have Psalm 69 just for the song Jesus Built My HotRod.
but I have to give it another listen to judge the other songs this isn't exactly my kind of music, I like it but at the same time it all sounds the same to me.
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Iz is an expert on music that all sounds the same. cf. Cannical Corpse, thankfully the noise him and Sam make is nothing like that.
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If he didn´t do that, it wouldn´t be Jello BiafraJames Blast wrote:special mention for: In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up video/DVD def. worth a viewing or 69, apart from Jello Biafra making a FUD of himself, of course
I like most of their stuff, not "twitch" and the stuff before that one, though.
"Filth pig" is not so good either.
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sorry Mats I meant to type Jello "Larry the Lamb" Biafra
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